Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

Hi David, I just read your in post detail! Excellent detailed commentary imo. Apologies, for misinterpreting your view of the article after a quick (COVID clouded) reading of your post (I missed the “don’t”)! However, I still think the article is more balanced than most popular pieces on SAI, and on the PT Barnum “There’s no such thing as bad news” principle, I stand by my point on the article being a major breakthrough for Direct Climate Cooling! Best, Ron Sent from my iPhone

The discussion delves into the complexities of climate science, particularly focusing on the potential effectiveness and timeframe of a proposed atmospheric methane removal strategy known as GRAP (Global Reduction of Atmospheric Pollutants). The exchange involves multiple experts including Robert, Oswald Petersen, Thomas J. F. Goreau, and Mike, each offering insights and perspectives on various aspects of climate modeling, atmospheric physics, and geoengineering.

Robert initially raises questions about the timing and efficacy of GRAP, particularly in relation to the timeframe for surface temperature impacts following methane reduction. He acknowledges the inherent complexity of the climate system but seeks a simplified understanding to assess GRAP's potential contribution to mitigating climate change.

Oswald provides details about the proposed GRAP method, emphasizing its potential effectiveness and cost. He highlights the need for accurate atmospheric modeling to determi

The discussion delves into the complexities of climate science, particularly focusing on the potential effectiveness and timeframe of a proposed atmospheric methane removal strategy known as GRAP (Global Reduction of Atmospheric Pollutants). The exchange involves multiple experts including Robert, Oswald Petersen, Thomas J. F. Goreau, and Mike, each offering insights and perspectives on various aspects of climate modeling, atmospheric physics, and geoengineering.

Robert initially raises questions about the timing and efficacy of GRAP, particularly in relation to the timeframe for surface temperature impacts following methane reduction. He acknowledges the inherent complexity of the climate system but seeks a simplified understanding to assess GRAP's potential contribution to mitigating climate change.

Oswald provides details about the proposed GRAP method, emphasizing its potential effectiveness and cost. He highlights the need for accurate atmospheric modeling to determi

The discussion delves into the complexities of climate science, particularly focusing on the potential effectiveness and timeframe of a proposed atmospheric methane removal strategy known as GRAP (Global Reduction of Atmospheric Pollutants). The exchange involves multiple experts including Robert, Oswald Petersen, Thomas J. F. Goreau, and Mike, each offering insights and perspectives on various aspects of climate modeling, atmospheric physics, and geoengineering.

Robert initially raises questions about the timing and efficacy of GRAP, particularly in relation to the timeframe for surface temperature impacts following methane reduction. He acknowledges the inherent complexity of the climate system but seeks a simplified understanding to assess GRAP's potential contribution to mitigating climate change.

Oswald provides details about the proposed GRAP method, emphasizing its potential effectiveness and cost. He highlights the need for accurate atmospheric modeling to determi

The discussion delves into the complexities of climate science, particularly focusing on the potential effectiveness and timeframe of a proposed atmospheric methane removal strategy known as GRAP (Global Reduction of Atmospheric Pollutants). The exchange involves multiple experts including Robert, Oswald Petersen, Thomas J. F. Goreau, and Mike, each offering insights and perspectives on various aspects of climate modeling, atmospheric physics, and geoengineering.

Robert initially raises questions about the timing and efficacy of GRAP, particularly in relation to the timeframe for surface temperature impacts following methane reduction. He acknowledges the inherent complexity of the climate system but seeks a simplified understanding to assess GRAP's potential contribution to mitigating climate change.

Oswald provides details about the proposed GRAP method, emphasizing its potential effectiveness and cost. He highlights the need for accurate atmospheric modeling to determi

Summary

The discussion centers around the work of Dr. Anastassia Makarieva and the broader implications of her research on biotic regulation theory, as well as debates on global change mitigation strategies and their effectiveness in addressing climate change.

Key Points of the Discussion:

Makarieva?s Work: Dr. Anastassia Makarieva?s research explores the biotic pump concept and dynamical processes of cyclones within the troposphere. Her work emphasizes the role of natural ecosystems in regulating the environment and argues for their crucial role in maintaining a habitable Earth. Notably, her papers include:

Makarieva et al. (2020): Focuses on atmospheric processes but does not address global cooling or stratospheric water vapor.

Makarieva et al. (2022): Explores aspects of ecosystem dynamics but remains centered on the troposphere.

Makarieva et al. (2023): Continues the examination of atmospheric processes within the troposphere.

Additi

Summary

The discussion centers around the work of Dr. Anastassia Makarieva and the broader implications of her research on biotic regulation theory, as well as debates on global change mitigation strategies and their effectiveness in addressing climate change.

Key Points of the Discussion:

Makarieva?s Work: Dr. Anastassia Makarieva?s research explores the biotic pump concept and dynamical processes of cyclones within the troposphere. Her work emphasizes the role of natural ecosystems in regulating the environment and argues for their crucial role in maintaining a habitable Earth. Notably, her papers include:

Makarieva et al. (2020): Focuses on atmospheric processes but does not address global cooling or stratospheric water vapor.

Makarieva et al. (2022): Explores aspects of ecosystem dynamics but remains centered on the troposphere.

Makarieva et al. (2023): Continues the examination of atmospheric processes within the troposphere.

Additi

The article by Susanna Lidstr?m, Lisa A. Levin, and Sarah Seabrook, published in npj Ocean Sustainability, explores the parallel narratives surrounding marine carbon dioxide removal (mCDR) and deep-seabed mining (DSM). Both are framed as essential solutions to climate challenges, with mCDR aimed at enhancing carbon sequestration in the ocean, and DSM touted as necessary for supplying materials for electrification. However, while the negative impacts of DSM on marine ecosystems are well-documented, the environmental and social risks of mCDR have not received similar scrutiny.

The authors argue that mCDR's potential harms are not as thoroughly examined as those of DSM, and they call for a more balanced consideration of risks and benefits. They suggest that the risks of mCDR, if real, should be weighed against the potential benefits of mitigating climate change, particularly if land-based carbon removal proves insufficient.

Critics, like Greg, argue that the comparison betwe

Certainly! The document you provided is a report from an online gathering focused on addressing global crises. Co-sponsored by the Council for the World Future and the Club of Rome, the event brought together 25 organizations to discuss global challenges and propose solutions.

Key points from the report include:

Title: A World Call to Action on the Multiple Crises Now Enfolding Humanity

Key Proposal: The report advocates for "Direct Climate Cooling" as a crucial strategy. This includes using ecosystem restoration and other methods to prevent reaching critical planetary tipping points.

Main Argument: The HPAC statement emphasizes that the Climate Triad can effectively address the complex, intertwined crises facing the world, referred to as the "Polycrisis."

The PDF includes a summary of the discussions and detailed statements from each participating organization.

Dana is concerned about the language used in climate communication, specifically in relation to Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Thermal Radiation Management (TRM) approaches. She notes that terms like "sunlight reflection" and "ecosystem regeneration" in popular media do not accurately describe the technical methods discussed in the HPAC climate paper, such as Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) and Cirrus Cloud Thinning (CCT). She emphasizes the need for precise language in describing the 14 cooling approaches covered in the paper, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), and Tropospheric Aerosol Injection (TAI), which are considered scalable in the short term.

Dana also reflects on issues of overconsumption and environmental impact, citing personal observations about excessive driving and resource use among her neighbors. She advocates for degrowth in developed countries and smarter growth in developing nations, highlighting the

Dana is concerned about the language used in climate communication, specifically in relation to Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Thermal Radiation Management (TRM) approaches. She notes that terms like "sunlight reflection" and "ecosystem regeneration" in popular media do not accurately describe the technical methods discussed in the HPAC climate paper, such as Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) and Cirrus Cloud Thinning (CCT). She emphasizes the need for precise language in describing the 14 cooling approaches covered in the paper, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), and Tropospheric Aerosol Injection (TAI), which are considered scalable in the short term.

Dana also reflects on issues of overconsumption and environmental impact, citing personal observations about excessive driving and resource use among her neighbors. She advocates for degrowth in developed countries and smarter growth in developing nations, highlighting the

Dana is concerned about the language used in climate communication, specifically in relation to Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Thermal Radiation Management (TRM) approaches. She notes that terms like "sunlight reflection" and "ecosystem regeneration" in popular media do not accurately describe the technical methods discussed in the HPAC climate paper, such as Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) and Cirrus Cloud Thinning (CCT). She emphasizes the need for precise language in describing the 14 cooling approaches covered in the paper, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), and Tropospheric Aerosol Injection (TAI), which are considered scalable in the short term.

Dana also reflects on issues of overconsumption and environmental impact, citing personal observations about excessive driving and resource use among her neighbors. She advocates for degrowth in developed countries and smarter growth in developing nations, highlighting the

Dana is concerned about the language used in climate communication, specifically in relation to Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Thermal Radiation Management (TRM) approaches. She notes that terms like "sunlight reflection" and "ecosystem regeneration" in popular media do not accurately describe the technical methods discussed in the HPAC climate paper, such as Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) and Cirrus Cloud Thinning (CCT). She emphasizes the need for precise language in describing the 14 cooling approaches covered in the paper, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), and Tropospheric Aerosol Injection (TAI), which are considered scalable in the short term.

Dana also reflects on issues of overconsumption and environmental impact, citing personal observations about excessive driving and resource use among her neighbors. She advocates for degrowth in developed countries and smarter growth in developing nations, highlighting the

Dana is concerned about the language used in climate communication, specifically in relation to Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Thermal Radiation Management (TRM) approaches. She notes that terms like "sunlight reflection" and "ecosystem regeneration" in popular media do not accurately describe the technical methods discussed in the HPAC climate paper, such as Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) and Cirrus Cloud Thinning (CCT). She emphasizes the need for precise language in describing the 14 cooling approaches covered in the paper, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), and Tropospheric Aerosol Injection (TAI), which are considered scalable in the short term.

Dana also reflects on issues of overconsumption and environmental impact, citing personal observations about excessive driving and resource use among her neighbors. She advocates for degrowth in developed countries and smarter growth in developing nations, highlighting the